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“Dreamstar Lines is building passenger service in the United States. And we’re starting one area where we think we’re sorely lacking, which is overnight sleeper trains.” – Joshua
“If you want someone to try something new, you got to make it sexy.” – Joshua
“I think that a lot of people don’t know how stuff is built. I think they have this idea, well, if I just had $10 billion, oof. Like, but that’s not how the real world works.” – Joshua
“People are like, well, you know, the ticket should be $50. And I’m like, not in this world, not in America, not in this world today.” – Joshua
“I think zoning in this country is profoundly anti-American.” – Joshua
The Tesla Approach to Passenger Rail
Building new high-speed rail infrastructure from scratch in the United States is a notoriously difficult and expensive endeavor, plagued by endless permitting, zoning laws, and multibillion-dollar price tags. Joshua Dominic, Co-founder and CEO of Dreamstar Lines, realized that to bring world-class train travel back to America, they had to work with the infrastructure we already have. By signing agreements to utilize the existing 140,000 miles of track—specifically partnering with Union Pacific—Dreamstar Lines is set to launch a premium overnight sleeper train between Los Angeles and San Francisco.
But getting Americans out of airplanes and cars requires a massive behavioral shift. Taking a page out of Tesla’s playbook, Joshua and his team realized that to change the perception of train travel, they had to start by making it “sexy.” Working with BMW Designworks, they are creating an Art Deco-inspired, premium experience designed for travelers who value their time and comfort.
Through intensive customer discovery, Dreamstar Lines has tailored its offering to solve real traveler pain points. They are introducing private, pet-friendly cabins for animal lovers and an auto-ferry service so passengers can bring their own cars for the last mile—at least until autonomous robotaxi fleets take over our cities.
In this episode, Silas and Joshua dig deep into the realities of building hard tech and physical infrastructure in a highly regulated environment. They discuss the economics of shared corridors with freight rails, why strict zoning laws are hindering the “builder generation,” and why special economic zones might be the key to unlocking America’s next wave of innovation.
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📝 Show Notes:
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Here are some key timestamps from the episode:
00:00 – Intro & Sponsors: Lehmann’s Terms, Climate Finance Solutions, and EarthSearch.
03:48 – What is Dreamstar Lines?: Bringing overnight sleeper trains to the LA-SF route.
04:39 – The Strategy: Using existing Union Pacific tracks to bypass the nightmare of building new rail infrastructure.
08:03 – The Bottleneck: Why building new rail in the US is a million-variable problem.
14:38 – Making Trains Sexy: Why you must start with a premium product to change consumer behavior (The Tesla Model).
26:29 – Customer Discovery: Why they added an auto-ferry service and pet-friendly private accommodations.
31:28 – The Autonomous Future: How Robotaxi fleets will solve the last-mile problem for train travelers.
39:40 – Regulation vs. Innovation: Why the US needs a new generation of “builder” legislators.
46:52 – Zoning is Anti-American: The housing crisis and the case for creating special economic zones for experimentation.
55:09 – Sustainability: The carbon emissions of rail vs. flying, and the future of hybridized rail tech.
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